🥄 Stirring the pot

[Crafty]

So I'm semi in the camp of cables matters. I mean China is making some premium crap for consumers to buy.
My opinion...
Get good wire. no need for esoteric cables. Over 2K zar for power hungry speakers is possibly a waste for a 2 x 1.5 meter setup.
Blue Jeans being a good example of good wire. I would gladly use bluejeans on a R500K system. (not there yet)

 

[Mr_B]

Whatever gimmicky nonsense is going on in Cardas cables works for my ears, but cables lifters? Hmmm...

 

[tzs503gp]

None of the above.

 

[hendrikvr]

 

[naboo]

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Jeepers that must be to power the LHC or something! What's the pic from?

 

[Trompie67]

Jeepers that must be to power the LHC or something! What's the pic from?

Superconductivity for sustainability: a new superconducting link for the High-Luminosity LHC

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world’s largest and most powerful particle accelerator, is also the largest single machine operating in the world today that uses superconductivity. The proton beams inside the LHC are bent and focused around the accelerator ring using superconducting...

home.cern

 

[hendrikvr]

Jeepers that must be to power the LHC or something! What's the pic from?

Yip, that’s CERN’s Python.

 

[naboo]

Yip, that’s CERN’s Python.

Thought I'd seen it before. See, the clever scientists use cable lifters.

 

[Sarel.wagner]

See.... cable lifters....

OpligtendeGroetnis

 

[Orcish75]

See.... cable lifters....

OpligtendeGroetnis

Yup, purely to allow them to move the cable around that probably weighs a couple of tons.

 

[Sarel.wagner]

no need to move them cables man, they connect two things together only. It must be for performance.... Already busy copying them design, it's CERN engineering after all, only the best!

Groetnis

 

[Crafty]

Speaking of lhc and super conducters...
There was a paper filed a couple of days ago of a new super conducter that opperates at room temp and ambient pressure
How long before speaker cables come with this LK-99

[2307.12008] The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor

 

[Sarel.wagner]

Still a bit of a debate, there may be some doubt as to if this is indeed the case....

Groetnis

 

[naboo]

Still a bit of a debate, there may be some doubt as to if this is indeed the case....

Groetnis

You mean the superconductor, I presume. Not the cable debate, that one is done.

 

[tillerman]

I've had the best results with Cat5.

 

[Crafty]

I've had the best results with Cat5.

For makro/hifi-corp/checkers equipment... this is fine
However, cat5 is limited to about 3.3 amps.
On 8 ohm speakers with an amp running on rails of 35v (typical medium end) you will need wires that support 4A or more.

 

[naboo]

For makro/hifi-corp/checkers equipment... this is fine
However, cat5 is limited to about 3.3 amps.
On 8 ohm speakers with an amp running on rails of 35v (typical medium end) you will need wires that support 4A or more.
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I'm no engineer, but is this not only when you are actually running 153w output?

 

[Crafty]

I'm no engineer, but is this not only when you are actually running 153w output?

Yes. But think high end. B&W 800D speakers are not efficient. The recommended power amp is 400 watts per side.
Folks run them with powerful monoblocks such as classe, because they are power hungry speakers. Besides. Some decent 4 core blue jeans wire might be cheaper than STP network cable. Wait... let me check that.
Okey.. I stand corrected. A pair of terminated blue jeans cable is about 50USD. So the point is, there are some setups that require huge power even for mid level db's

 

[naboo]

True, but Tillerman may have flea-amp. Anyway, since the point of the thread is stirring the pot I don't think he can really hear a difference

 

[tillerman]

I don't have a flea-amp (yet), but I do have relatively sensitive full range speakers. Yes, just stirring the pot like Getafix - maybe some magic potion will emerge.